I thought we were in favor of voting rights.
Is that snark?
For Alegre to actually acknoledge how silly the season has always been........
THIS MUST BE SNARK!
Isn't it past your bed time?
Well at least you didnt call me "boy"
Although you did in your last post
I won't make an obnoxious comment like you did, but your whole argument is wrong, as I've explained below.
Short version -- He wasn't saying that one group of demonstrators would produce chaos.
YOU'RE WRONG! Vote for my guy! So enchanting and seductive!
New rules:
One can't correct the diarist's statements of facts -- which are in fact wrong.
Also, one can't complain when the diarist insults posters.
do not insult them into submission, it doesn't work!
I haven't insulted anyone. I'd just like the diarist to correct the diary.
Catfish has to be a chaos troll. Nobody is that obtuse.
Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.
Serious question - how old are you?
He doesn't want his supporters to attend the meeting because he doesn't want to be associated with signs like:
"Process Over People"
"Stop Counting the Votes"
"Punish Michigan"
"Florida Should Never Vote Again"
"Honor Rule 20.C.1.a"
Obama's position on this matter is a total embarrassment both for him and the party. It's pretty obvious why he doesn't want publicity associated with his stealth stance against millions of voters and two major states.
If I were attending the rally, I'd just bring a sign with Michigan and Florida colored in red.
trolling and spamming.
Progressive Blue
Any amount of money you want says that this is someone who was banned for tr'ing Alegra when she said that.
I'm not excusing trolling and spamming, but I am saying that when 20-odd posters were stripped of their rec'ing privileges, the fact that Alegre would from that point forward be unable to post anything without a million *Is this snark?*s filling up her diaries was 100% predictable.
Jerome made a huge mistake doing that.
And of course Alegre came out the next day, said something to the effect of: It wasnt me, but screw you guys anyways you got what you deserved.
And people wonder why.
Politics is never a one way street, only Republicans believe that and look where it got them!
I really wonder about many of you.
Why do you do these stupid things? What are you trying to accomplish?
Are you still in high school or what?
geeez.
"Hope, Unity and Change" - great words ... if you live them and believe in them.
a snark?
and all of your off spring.
way to go! Way to show what a proud O supporter you are!
WhooHoo!
no you are not.
see ya.
I'd like to remind you that the term "Obamapod" is an attack on other users and against the guidelines of this site.
I am one of those weird ones that kind of likes that song and the video cracks me up.
So... thanks. Now I know you really care!
well at least it's easy to see who's sock-puppet you are
That's definitely snark. Bad snark. But snark.
No, Alegre's become a troll, is all. But that's to be expected.
Exactly.
TR"s for off-topic bandwidth hogging spam of unattributed probably copyrighted material in violation of fair use.
...after posting a couple of the best diaries I've seen from you all season--and the first things I've ever rec'd from you--you go and screw up all that heart-tugging (apparently disingenuous) unity prose with cheap-shot comments like this?
So much hypocrisy...so little time.
Uh huh.
Bob, we may disagree, but how many times have I made a point in regards to a diary of yours, and not stuck around to defend it? Or vice versa- how many times have you just ignored it?
I don't think ever. No, you stand and fight it, and while we may disagree, you don't just give up, do you? And you don't engage in ad hominem attacks, usually- at least, not as a stand alone. You certainly do get personal at times, but I think it's amusing rather than insulting. It's tough times, we're all on edge, I can understand it.
However, I've never seen Alegre do this, ever. She never sticks around for hard discourse, she's never up to taking a serious look at the disingenuous things she writes- she doesn't even try. And she regularly relies on ad hominem attacks to carry the day for her, or real Clinton supporters to try and step up and carry her weight, like you.
This far from a cheap shot. This is a biting commentary of the diarist's inability to actually raise the level of discourse. If it weren't for the HI44 crew she gets to auto-rec her diaries every time they come on the list, then she wouldn't even get on the rec list.
See, someone like you, we have sharp words, but I still respect you as a person. Like here- you're standing up for something you believe in. That's something Alegre would never do for you, and between the two of you, I'd damn well rather have you on my side, and consider you to be a proper representative of a Clinton supporter.
But that's just what I think; think what you will.
...HI44 crew she gets to auto-rec her diaries?
Pop open her rec list, and compare 'em. dot48, 1950sDemocrat, there's a bunch of them in there, and if you'll notice that they never respond to the thread- or any thread, for that matter- but quickly and instantly recommend her work regardless of the content, whereas you and I have to work damn hard to write a good diary and hope people actually appreciate the content to get it on the rec list.
Good old Dot,
dot48 Says: May 6th, 2008 at 9:42 pm ...The whites need to step up or be shit outta luck with this dude and his creepy anti American background and his hateful wife. -end quote.
Just look at Plouffe's full quote:
"Obviously, with the click of a mouse it would be pretty easy for us in the mid-Atlantic to get thousands of people there, but we don't think it's a helpful dynamic to create chaos and in the interest of party unity, we're encouraging our supporters not to protest."
For fucksakes, how could it not be crystal clear that he's stating that the Obama people have been asked to stay away in order to avoid the possibility of a nasty confrontation? How does someone look at this and conclude he's accusing the Clinton gathering of creating chaos on their own?
Note also Alegre's use of the word "Allegedly" to introduce the quote. In other words alegre knows damn well what he said, it just looks better when she puts it in her own warped context instead of the original.
Fuck that. You write a full frigging diary about a quote that you had to take out of context to make it seem inflammatory? People are reccing this shit?
What trash. This is the lowest form of troll bullshit.
She's just grasping . . .
Did you read past the 1st line?
Yes, I did, thanks for asking. And let me tell you: it was painful! As about 2,000 commenters have pointed out, Alegra was dead wrong on her interpretation of Plouffe's comments. But did she acknowledge that in any way, or pull her diary? Of course not. That would seem to pretty strongly imply that Allergy's completely uninterested in any intellectually honest debate or discussion. Wouldn't you agree?
By the way, I never get past the first line of your stupid ass diaries.
Hide rate abuse, ex, Tex? I think your time has come and gone here at MyDD. We don't need your brand of vitriol, rhetoric, and invective anymore. But thanks anyway!
district went for Obama heavily.
Stephanie Tubbs-Jones went for Obama even more heavily.
Deval Patrick John Kerry Ted Kennedy (may he beat his illness)
See? Two can play this game.
Are you sure?
I wish you guys would find a real issue to protest. Like voting rights.
I've corrected your misstatements of the facts below http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/5/29/2 232/22911/13#13
Now that you see where you misunderstood what Plouffe said, I'm sure you'll quickly correct the diary.
Here's the FULL quote which you've taken out of contest:
"We are not encouraging our people to gather and protest on Saturday," he said. "With the click of a mouse it would be pretty easy for us in the Mid-Atlantic to gather thousands of people."
"We don't think it's a helpful dynamic to create chaos," he said, citing the interests of "party unity" as "we wind down the primary."
Yeah, the chaos would come from having dueling demonstrations. That's what Plouffe said could be easily organized but that they would refrain from organizing as not to produce chaos.
because it seems all you can do is misrepresent it.
Honestly Alegre, did it ever occur to you that it's not about YOU?
Jesus Christ are you DONE yet? When is this idiocy going to end?
never. Whether or not Hillary concedes, she'll be pushing for her right up until the convention. And when Obama is the nominee, I'm sure she'll be out there stumping for McCain.
She's delusional and dishonest, and every diary proves it.
People throw out diaries accusing Obama of ridculous sins that NEVER HAPPENED. They project all the evils of the world on him but that's just fine and dandy.
It's downright pathalogical! when are we going to get beyond this?
No I don't think it has occured to her. I'm interested from a psychological standpoint as to how she will react to Obama's inevitable claiming of the nomination.
Denial, acceptance, or anger? Maybe she will continue to produce the same 'disconnected from reality drivel' that has been her hallmark here as of late.
I'm interested to see how the Hillary dead-enders handle the endgame.
isn't that what all the Clinton supporters are calling what Obama supporters threaten to do in Denver if she manages by some miracle to thieve the nomination?
It's sexist to suggest an angry mob outside a committee meeting is unhelpful???
Sigh.
Clinton supporters seem to have just the opposite view when it comes to Collin County, Texas.
Why didn't Hillary fight for innocent lives when the Iraq war vote was taking place? That was a more serious issue. Is your outrage all revolving around a cult of perosnality?
