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Look at any electoral vote projection map too (2.00 / 3)

Hillary beats McCain comfortably, while McCain beats Obama comfortably.

You'd think as delegate majority focused vs. popular vote dismissive as most Obama supporters are, that would speak volumns.


by phoenixdreamz on Sat May 17, 2008 at 08:51:01 AM EST

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Their tone deaf. It's all about Obama, not backing a democrat (Hillary) who can actually win the general election.


by grlpatriot on Sat May 17, 2008 at 08:58:26 AM EST
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It's all about Obama because he's the one who has (nearly) won the primary under the rules established at the beginning of the primary season.

Second guessing is fine, hypothetical analysis of Clinton vs McCain is fine... But it's inherently futile. No one (from the MSM to random people on the streets) cares if Hillary is the better candidate in the general election if she's not the candidate in the general election.


by TCQuad on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:40:08 AM EST
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You are going to be disappointed in November when Obama wins.


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by Blue Neponset on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:46:17 AM EST
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Why would anyone be HAPPY that McCain would win. You know I support Clinton for MANY reasons. Aside from the fact that I believe her to be a better candidate due to her qualifications, I also believe she stands a better chance of winning against McCain in the G/E in November.  Somehow, to you, I guess that translates to desiring a GOP win if the candidate that I believe to hold the better qualifications in the party is not the nominee. Talk about a leap in logic; maybe it is that sort of rationale that makes you also think Obama will flip classically red states.


by jrsygrl on Sun May 18, 2008 at 02:50:17 PM EST
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Yes, by all freakin' means.. let's not even have voting in November... let's base the election on a collection of polls done in the Spring...

Well, heck then, we should have done that in 2004 since Kerry was leading Bush in most all of them....


McCain/Palin... even scarier than Bush/Cheney... and that's saying something!
by JenKinFLA on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:39:09 AM EST
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Check a map (2.00 / 1)

Then tell me West Virginia OR Kentucky is closer to Arkansas than Illinois.

It's simple - he lumped them together as under educated working southerners that just don't know enough to vote for him.


by Michael Begala on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:00:00 AM EST
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I will tell you that... because culturally and demographically, they are much closer to Arkansas than to Illinois.

But of course, it's easier for you to twist the words of a fellow Democrat in a feeble attempt to score political points and pretend he's insulting voters, than it is to take the adult path, listen to him in good faith, and understand what he's saying.


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by mistersite on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:41:32 AM EST
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Exactly. Arkansas is on the tail end... (2.00 / 2)

... of the Appalachian migration. Compare this map of counties where Clinton received more than 65% of the primary vote (pre-WV):

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... with this map of the Upland South, representing Appalachia and the westward migration from Appalachia into... Arkansas:

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Note also how few black people live in those Upland South areas:

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Once again demonstrating that David Sirota is right.


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by tbetz on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:20:00 PM EST
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Oh.  So when he said "nearby," he meant "similar culturally and demographically" and not "nearby geographically"?  That's a bizarre interpretation.


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by markjay on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:09:44 PM EST
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I think you have stated this opinion enough in this thread, don't you?


by futbol dad on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:55:55 PM EST
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