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You're sooooo silly.  Algere is a blogger, but she's a huge target around here and they're still whining about her over at kos, or so I hear, I don't personally go there.  Stat's are all done like that, to make a case or show something is possible. What about all that 'it's the math' coming from the media, which math are they looking at, there are always more than a few ways to count.  Oh, well, why bother, you want to have some target, guess it's a working mother of two for you.


what a relief
by anna shane on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:56:37 AM EST
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You obviously didn't read the diary - it was widely ridiculed at the time, even by the Hillary supporters.  The thing was, she didn't admit she had made the stats up, she was passing them off as polling data.


by interestedbystander on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:19:50 PM EST
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Stat's are all done like that, to make a case or show something is possible.
This sentiment is part of the problem.  The 'lies, damn lies and statistics' line is true, but not because of a flaw with stats, but because so many are willing to abuse this science for the sake of deceiving others or themselves.  Properly done statistics is the sole method of proving things experimentally in many sciences.  A well-constructed statistical analysis from a clean dataset can reduce the amount of doubt clouding a situation to near zero.  It's true that there's always more than one way to look at data, but it's not true, as is often claimed, that you can prove anything with statistics.  The problem is that fallacious arguments are much harder for the untrained eye to spot when stats are employed, much as they would be if you made your argument in Greek.


by semiquaver on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:59:01 PM EST
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so who's the authority?  Since there is none, I'd prefer to think for myself.  I don't need to get agreement, my opinions don't depend on support from other bloggers.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:34:45 PM EST
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say 'who's the authority?'  Who's the authority when Democrats say "global warming is a reality"?  For that matter, who's the authority on whether boats can fall off the edge of the world if one sails too far?  

Some things are considered settled by science, and the very strong explanatory power of statistics when practiced responsibly is one of them.  Maybe as a trained statistician my bias is showing, but while in specific scenarios one should always be skeptical of statistical analysis, to mistrust it in general and doubt its ability to make strong conclusions is no different than mistrusting the veracity of evolution.  One should question individual purveyors of bad stats, rather than the field as a whole.  This isn't one blogger's opinion, this is the established consensus of science.

The bottom line is, there's only one political party dedicated to undermining science and I'm pretty sure it's not mine.


by semiquaver on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:00:44 AM EST
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